1 00:00:04,870 --> 00:00:07,490 Marianne Koens was horrified by it brought to life. 2 00:00:08,230 --> 00:00:11,950 Presumably by her partner Anton Bergman and her stepdaughter Julie 3 00:00:11,950 --> 00:00:15,070 Bergman. I accidentally got Marianne from the stairs sound. 4 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:17,430 I wasn't even home when she was has died. 5 00:00:17,690 --> 00:00:20,890 You're pitting a father against his own daughter. My client is too 6 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:24,090 more innocent. But that child is lying down. 7 00:00:24,670 --> 00:00:28,290 Of all the people in the world ordered you Marianne. 8 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:41,860 About a month before death from Marianne, Anton called me in a panic 9 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:43,860 to say that Marianne was unwell become. 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,380 It later turned out that she overdosed had venobarbital in her blood. 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,180 So Anton already has Marianne rather want to kill. 12 00:00:51,450 --> 00:00:55,330 What he's saying is that Pix is just as good could have been suspicious because Parket was there 13 00:00:55,330 --> 00:00:56,410 didn't even think about it. 14 00:00:56,650 --> 00:00:59,450 Don't you agree that Pix did it has? You have to judge this 15 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:01,350 two people alive. Then you can do it maybe better do good. 16 00:01:02,190 --> 00:01:05,110 I don't know if that's such a good idea. 17 00:01:07,070 --> 00:01:10,630 It was never my intention to hurt you to hurt. 18 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:16,110 Maybe I got it wrong too signal issued. 19 00:01:20,460 --> 00:01:24,060 I found an apartment and I I need money for the where house. That 20 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:25,760 is not euro sale, why are you bringing it up actually? 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,160 We stopped. 22 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:29,760 Already 283 days. I have to get out of there. 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Ça va? 24 00:01:32,020 --> 00:01:34,740 Gee, but I believe you. I didn't want to anyway knowing that half of your room was about to burn down. 25 00:01:34,980 --> 00:01:35,980 Stop! 26 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:38,500 Are you the driver? 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Yes. 28 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:44,680 According to Jan, those photos have been sent with a Twitter account named 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,680 Firestarter. 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,500 That's nothing for us to buy. 31 00:01:47,900 --> 00:01:50,100 He left me those photos about 80 years ago take. 32 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:53,240 It didn't look exactly like him was there against your will. 33 00:02:25,170 --> 00:02:26,170 That slats is here too. 34 00:02:29,510 --> 00:02:30,510 Vrelst or what? 35 00:02:31,150 --> 00:02:32,230 That's lightweight. 36 00:02:32,890 --> 00:02:34,550 He turned it off from the track off. 37 00:02:36,350 --> 00:02:37,350 Come them. 38 00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:05,930 Ah, here she is. 39 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:09,850 Moi. Things are going exactly well. Yes, me can't complain. 40 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:11,990 She's been doing so well, I think heard. 41 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:15,550 Yes, good entrainer, eh. 42 00:03:16,150 --> 00:03:17,710 Ah, good genes, for example. 43 00:03:18,670 --> 00:03:20,470 That's also possible. Ah, Mr. Bergman. 44 00:03:21,130 --> 00:03:22,130 You're a good one. 45 00:03:22,410 --> 00:03:23,990 We vote for you. Salute, salute. 46 00:03:25,070 --> 00:03:26,070 Your vanker. 47 00:03:27,590 --> 00:03:28,690 Sorry. Wait a minute. 48 00:03:29,290 --> 00:03:30,470 Be careful, okay? Yes, yes. 49 00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:32,390 Turn around. 50 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:34,060 Oh. 51 00:03:35,860 --> 00:03:36,860 Are you okay? 52 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:27,540 Why do you think that now? 53 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:29,500 Let me see. 54 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:31,800 Okay, that's just some scraping dogs. Come on, daddy. 55 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,560 If you don't get married, I would give a kiss. 56 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:06,180 We must give thanks. 57 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,680 I am married. 58 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,040 Will you please stay with me? 59 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:30,700 Sure. 60 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:40,050 What about the boys? 61 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:44,330 Have you no love? 62 00:05:46,190 --> 00:05:47,190 Never? 63 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:55,530 Did you make that yourself? 64 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:57,950 Prince, you were banjo. 65 00:05:59,870 --> 00:06:01,010 A bit of a failure at first. 66 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:05,690 Color, I don't know. 67 00:06:08,590 --> 00:06:10,150 Aren't you a little too childish? or so? 68 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:11,910 No, I think it's very nice. 69 00:06:19,090 --> 00:06:20,090 Here, for you. 70 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:24,350 Julie, I can't accept that. 71 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:26,270 Just give it to one of your own girlfriends. 72 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:31,270 You already have something in the meantime can you make friends? 73 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:40,800 I actually want to go back to my cell. 74 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:44,620 Why do you want to go back to your cell? 75 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Please. 76 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:16,330 You are fire! 77 00:08:19,310 --> 00:08:20,870 You are fire! That's mine! 78 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:25,990 From me! 79 00:08:30,650 --> 00:08:31,650 Oh, 80 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:36,990 stop now! 81 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:39,450 Come apart, come! Pep, man, you too! 82 00:09:03,109 --> 00:09:05,770 Hey. Hey, what happened? 83 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:09,010 You suddenly attacked me. 84 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:11,270 I don't know why. 85 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:14,070 And just like that? 86 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:19,130 Had something special happened? 87 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:24,110 Julie. 88 00:09:25,390 --> 00:09:27,550 If something is going on, I want it know. 89 00:09:28,550 --> 00:09:29,930 Otherwise I can't help you. 90 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:33,630 I'm going to get myself killed. 91 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:36,990 Suske, come here. 92 00:09:37,390 --> 00:09:38,390 Hey. 93 00:09:45,310 --> 00:09:46,310 Ella. 94 00:09:46,910 --> 00:09:49,390 Say. You can hold on for a while. 95 00:09:50,730 --> 00:09:51,750 Times are in sight. 96 00:10:06,209 --> 00:10:07,650 Mom, can you knock? 97 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:09,350 Gently with a pencil, you know. 98 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:11,009 Are you coming? 99 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:12,110 Yes. Bye, mom. 100 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:01,840 Nico, Kobe, breakfast! 101 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:39,940 Moeman? Everything okay? 102 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 No one lies here anymore, sir. Who are you looking for? 103 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,580 My sister walks to the commissary. 104 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,900 He left with her this morning friend. 105 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:14,760 Wait a minute. If you saw her again... She left that behind. 106 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,000 I told you not anymore was necessary? 107 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:48,360 Nadeke threw me out. 108 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Yes, young. 109 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:53,600 What do you want me to say to that? That is just betrayed. We can get there 110 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,340 please talk about it. I feel really not good with what's going on 111 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:57,199 happened. 112 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Come on, the taxi is here. 113 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:03,420 Dennis, come on. I'm not the one after all only one who made a mistake? 114 00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:06,180 Dennis! 115 00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:12,060 Romy. 116 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Sorry. 117 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,640 Good morning. 118 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:31,000 What did you hear? 119 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,720 The attorney was contacted this morning through the Begijnenstraat. In return for 120 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,600 his conflict with Julie Bergeman. Yes, indeed. There were a bit of problems 121 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,820 with her cellmates, but nothing serious. 122 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,220 This booklet was apparently the reason before the conflict. 123 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:54,900 I didn't know. 124 00:13:59,420 --> 00:14:01,100 Your client hasn't told you anything. 125 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:17,740 I asked the chairman for this piece to put down and add to 126 00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:18,740 the file. 127 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:23,060 This doesn't have... It just is pubescently cribbed. 128 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:25,920 I don't see what that brings. 129 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:35,580 Madam Chairman, the jury is leaving misinterpret something like that. 130 00:14:36,860 --> 00:14:39,760 It is stated very clearly here black on white. 131 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,340 That's killing her. 132 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Those are just silly teenage fantasies, come on. 133 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:47,640 You see that too, don't you? 134 00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:48,900 - No. 135 00:14:51,210 --> 00:14:54,990 Madam President, this has none some relevance to the 136 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:58,510 finding the truth. This isn't going to go away facts, this is about perception. 137 00:14:59,930 --> 00:15:01,350 We differ in opinion about that. 138 00:15:02,590 --> 00:15:04,450 Jan, you still take the wakkoepjes. 139 00:15:49,710 --> 00:15:53,150 Madam President, I would like to put down the next piece and join it 140 00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:54,049 attach file. 141 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:55,050 Mr. Clerk. 142 00:15:55,550 --> 00:16:01,750 Yes, I have to patent it to the jury that there was an incident of one this morning 143 00:16:01,750 --> 00:16:04,950 there was a fight in Julie's cell Bergman. 144 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:09,550 In addition, security has a Found a notebook that can be annoying 145 00:16:09,550 --> 00:16:13,710 are for her. So that's why this is going to be piece added to the file, but we 146 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:15,730 will discuss that later today come back. 147 00:16:16,830 --> 00:16:17,830 Mrs Vermeers. 148 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:21,990 You have been appointed by the public prosecutor's office as court psychiatrist. 149 00:16:22,270 --> 00:16:24,730 Shall we start with Mr. Bergman? 150 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:25,990 Okay. 151 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:32,090 So in the biographical history of Mr. Bergman, there is nothing remarkable 152 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:33,090 came up. 153 00:16:33,550 --> 00:16:37,270 He grew up as an only child. He was a rather weak student. 154 00:16:37,570 --> 00:16:41,930 He doesn't have his high school finished. He has an IQ of 95 and 155 00:16:41,930 --> 00:16:43,670 is therefore considered average intelligent. 156 00:16:44,590 --> 00:16:49,390 He is well-spoken, I would dare say charming, but he has a 157 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:51,150 rather introverted personality. 158 00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:57,110 On the one hand, he is very self-confident and vain, but on the other hand he struggles with a 159 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:58,110 low self-esteem. 160 00:16:58,290 --> 00:17:02,110 How does that translate to daily life? 161 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:08,369 The test research has shown that status is very important to him. 162 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:12,829 The right clothes, the right car, but also surround yourself with the right people. 163 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,859 And all because of his low self-esteem to compensate. 164 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,980 And alcohol was a way of doing that to deal with? 165 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:23,380 That could be possible. 166 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:27,119 But I mainly link that to the loss from his first wife. Yes. 167 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Could it be that Mr. Anton Bergman, if he had had too much to drink, he 168 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,680 then became aggressive? 169 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Mrs Vermeers? 170 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:42,100 Alcohol causes loss of energy impulse control. 171 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,660 So you could say that someone his true nature comes out more when 172 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:47,660 he has been drinking. 173 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,940 But in this case I can't do that provide a definitive answer. 174 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,160 And is there actually anything you can do? can you provide a definitive answer? 175 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,200 Because what I hear here is exactly that mainly assumptions? My client 176 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,380 answers your questions and you project then add what you want. 177 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Will you continue, Mrs Vermeers? 178 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:07,440 I base my analyzes on internationally recognized methods. 179 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:11,280 Questionnaires. And has my client in one of your lists explained... 180 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,960 that he killed Mrs. Koens? 181 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Does my client have anything at all? stated that it may be too difficult for him 182 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,500 be? Mister De Donkere will come later speaking. 183 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:23,220 Madam President, I am not here appointed for. 184 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,600 And Master De Donkere already knows that too good. 185 00:18:26,020 --> 00:18:27,300 That's your answer. 186 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Thank you. 187 00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:35,080 What I did notice in it research, which is that in the SIM test the 188 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,020 score on the deceitfulness scale was significantly increased. 189 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,920 What do you mean by that? 190 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,340 That test showed that Mr Bergman tried to get my 191 00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:44,600 manipulate research. 192 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,400 Are you now saying that Mr. Bergman lied has? 193 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:49,420 Yes, a few times, yes. 194 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,560 And Marianne Koons? 195 00:18:56,780 --> 00:19:01,320 I mean, how important was it victim for Mr. Bergman? 196 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,820 Our conversations revealed that he always liked her. 197 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 But it was indeed the case adoration. 198 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:12,650 Like he couldn't believe that someone like Mrs. Koens would like him 199 00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:15,630 fall. Was he afraid she would kill him? leave? 200 00:19:16,510 --> 00:19:17,510 Undoubtedly, yes. 201 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:21,970 In addition, he is very sensitive is to be rejected. 202 00:19:22,670 --> 00:19:25,490 Damn, that's the worst thing, sir Bergman can happen. 203 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:29,030 Under that successful appearance of Mr. Bergman is actually hiding one 204 00:19:29,030 --> 00:19:34,110 frustrated person who can lash out fiercely when he feels threatened. On such 205 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:35,950 moment he will do anything to... 206 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,300 to get the situation under control. 207 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:09,810 No, that will turn out, because... I'm going now stay back in a moment. 208 00:20:12,050 --> 00:20:15,090 I made that false statement because my brother asked. 209 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:21,870 I'm not a slob, am I? 210 00:20:22,490 --> 00:20:23,670 May he realize that. 211 00:20:33,550 --> 00:20:37,670 In the biographical history of Miss Bergman especially likes the very strong bond 212 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:41,790 on the one she had with her biological one mother. She died when she was nine 213 00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:42,549 years old. 214 00:20:42,550 --> 00:20:45,210 That has had a huge impact her, of course. 215 00:20:45,530 --> 00:20:49,170 And then her father is that one has come to play an important role 216 00:20:49,170 --> 00:20:50,069 her. 217 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:53,370 I would like to mention that her father was missed very much 218 00:20:53,370 --> 00:20:54,289 during that period. 219 00:20:54,290 --> 00:20:57,570 Because he himself is of course very hard on it the struggle was with the loss of 220 00:20:57,570 --> 00:20:58,570 his wife. 221 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,760 After the death, Miss Bergman completely devoted to her sport. And 222 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,100 in this way she followed in his footsteps from her mother, who is also a 223 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,940 celebrated triathlete. 224 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:14,560 Does the relationship between Anton Bergman and Marianne Koens later also had an impact 225 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,499 Miss Bergman? 226 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:19,540 Yes, that's right. Not only does she have that experienced as a deep betrayal of her own 227 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:24,080 mother, but a struggle also arose for her father's attention. Whereby 228 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,520 she, at least in her feeling, always got the short end of the stick. 229 00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:32,000 Are there in personality research Did you notice any elements? 230 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:34,960 Mrs. Bergman has an IQ of 82. 231 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:38,560 We classify that as below average gifted. 232 00:21:38,980 --> 00:21:42,180 In addition, she is strong dependent personality structure 233 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:43,119 has. 234 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,340 And that means? 235 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,560 For example, she finds it very difficult to be alone. 236 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,340 She is always looking for someone who has it life for her. 237 00:21:51,620 --> 00:21:54,360 She needs a prosthesis, so to speak in order to exist. 238 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:58,990 Like? Her father? Yes, for example. 239 00:21:59,510 --> 00:22:02,470 But actually it's about everyone person who gives her attention. 240 00:22:03,090 --> 00:22:07,290 Since she is considered averagely gifted she also has a hard time sometimes 241 00:22:07,290 --> 00:22:09,310 to express oneself verbally. 242 00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:14,610 And that can in turn lead to acting out out. It is to say, impulsively, 243 00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:15,750 aggressive behavior. 244 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:21,780 Madam President, maybe it is opportune to have it now for a while 245 00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:25,160 about the incident in prison this morning. And maybe read aloud 246 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,500 from the book about which the argument was about. 247 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,540 Madam President, I don't see it what one thing has to do with the other 248 00:22:30,540 --> 00:22:32,960 has. You may continue, madam attorney. 249 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,700 As mentioned was Miss Bergman involved in a fight this morning with 250 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:38,700 her cellmates. 251 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,100 By the way, he has a broken nose has left. 252 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:45,190 That argument was about a poetry book by Julie. 253 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:49,450 We have several drawings there and texts found in which they find themselves 254 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:53,690 address to a person for whom they are cherishes feelings and from which a very 255 00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:55,810 clear hatred for Marian appears. 256 00:22:56,170 --> 00:22:59,530 Texts, they are not texts, they are scribbles. 257 00:22:59,970 --> 00:23:01,230 I quote. 258 00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:05,230 I hate Marian, but I love you. 259 00:23:05,770 --> 00:23:07,870 I just want to be with you. 260 00:23:08,910 --> 00:23:11,090 Marian destroys everything. 261 00:23:11,580 --> 00:23:13,040 That Marianne. 262 00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:14,480 I kill you. 263 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,680 That bitch. 264 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,920 That one. 265 00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:19,300 Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. 266 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,680 Mrs Vermeers, it could be that Julie here literally articulates what she is talking about 267 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,860 does that moment remain in her mind? 268 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,420 It's ridiculous. 269 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Madam Attorney Accusing here my clients based on just 270 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,779 some scribble scribble. 271 00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:34,860 You may answer the question, ma'am Vermeers. 272 00:23:35,860 --> 00:23:38,600 Maybe we should add one to my agenda too research times. Maybe I want to 273 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,920 Madam Attorney will put a stop to that hit. Who knows. 274 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:45,380 I am not used to your master, Verlinde. Do you need a short one? 275 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:47,140 break? You can. 276 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,440 No, no, no. 277 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Sorry, Madam Chairman. It will don't happen anymore. 278 00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:53,860 Thank you. 279 00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:55,780 Mrs Vermeers. 280 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:59,220 I got clear with the girl characteristics found of an electric 281 00:23:59,220 --> 00:24:01,940 -complex. An electrical complex? 282 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,440 That's an unhealthy fascination with the father figure, whereby that is the 283 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,480 mother figure, in this case the stepmother, as a forwarder 284 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,080 experience. So the person Julie is looking for refers in her lyrics, that would 285 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,440 do you think could be the father? 286 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,660 I cannot do that with 100% certainty say. 287 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,080 But it is possible. 288 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Yes. 289 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:30,680 Would that fascination with the father go so far can go... 290 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,520 That the stepmother had to die. 291 00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:35,040 Yeah, that doesn't sound like whistling. 292 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,620 Moreover, the different personality structures of Mr 293 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:41,160 Bergman and his daughter each other strengthen within this context. 294 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,040 What do you mean by that? 295 00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:46,960 Things haven't been going well for a long time between Mr. Bergman and Mrs. Koens. 296 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:51,460 And given his sensitivity to injury is quite possible 297 00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:54,660 fear of being rejected by her was very real. 298 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:56,600 At that moment... 299 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,440 was the rivalry between Mrs. Koens and Miss Bergman at such a high point. 300 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,800 Plus the girl would do anything for her to please father. 301 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:08,140 In such a case one and one can be equal to three. 302 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:20,260 That Claire Verlinde, there we have it seen a different side of it. So 303 00:25:20,260 --> 00:25:23,260 catty. She is just very involved with its clients. 304 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,560 And you see that there. 305 00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:27,830 I feel something now too overexaggerated, actually. 306 00:25:28,550 --> 00:25:29,910 Sorry, John was already here. 307 00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:34,390 Okay, no problem. Such a psychiatrist that's not necessarily about whether he has 308 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:37,770 done or not, but he has of course none of it is true. Would he? 309 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:38,770 can do it again? 310 00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:42,310 I'll follow Frank in a heartbeat. 311 00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:45,970 A questionnaire like that, what don't you know? along? 312 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:47,450 You want what you want, right? 313 00:25:47,950 --> 00:25:51,230 It must be strange that someone strange will determine how you are put together 314 00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:53,770 sits. Even find all kinds of things, I think i. 315 00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:57,490 I especially know that both that father and that daughter has been inside us all the time 316 00:25:57,490 --> 00:25:58,490 face lying. 317 00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:01,910 That's clearly not far from the liking lot. 318 00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:03,370 That father, yes. 319 00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:06,450 But that daughter... She sees a wise man really not easy. 320 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:08,110 Apparently deceived, Simon. 321 00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:15,810 To here? 322 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,450 Skate park. 323 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,040 You know what Dad said, right? 324 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,740 Kobe, you're suspended. 325 00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:26,380 You shouldn't go skating there either. That Don't you understand yourself? 326 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,100 Kobe? 327 00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:41,340 Kobe? 328 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:42,620 Wait a minute. 329 00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:04,830 I know it's not easy, boy. That too shall pass. Are you okay? 330 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:05,830 see. 331 00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:10,230 I'm just looking for photos. 332 00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:15,070 Dear, aren't you going too much? 333 00:27:17,670 --> 00:27:18,670 Not really. 334 00:27:19,710 --> 00:27:21,090 Wow, you guys are going to be so good together. 335 00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:29,050 There was someone else there, so... You got it therefore broken up. 336 00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:30,450 Normally that should be the case. 337 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:32,460 You already know that you need that, right? 338 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,000 That someone else is that one firestarter? 339 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,040 I know a lot. 340 00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:51,580 Kobe, please, you know you can you say anything to me? I then have 341 00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:52,580 I'd rather you be honest. But what? 342 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,400 Don't you believe me either? 343 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:44,530 Shouldn't you eat anything? 344 00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:49,110 Why didn't you tell me about that notebook? 345 00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:53,110 Don't know. 346 00:28:54,410 --> 00:28:55,570 I didn't know that was necessary. 347 00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:59,990 If I had known that in advance, I would have I can prepare better. 348 00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:04,270 Sorry? What was in there. 349 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:09,490 Kill Marianne, that or... What was that purpose of? 350 00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:11,450 I was angry. 351 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,260 Marjanne wants to send me to boarding school. 352 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,980 Look, if I want to do you any good defense, then it is very important 353 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:22,360 that you tell me everything. 354 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,720 Do you understand that? 355 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Is there anything else I should know? 356 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,200 No. 357 00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:47,000 Good, Mrs Vermeers, I want to talk to you would like to talk about that for a moment 358 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,080 electrical complex. 359 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:54,180 You talk about a fascination for the father figure and the fact that the 360 00:29:54,180 --> 00:29:57,320 stepmother as a jammer would are considered. 361 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Yes, that's right. 362 00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:02,940 And under that father figure we have to mine understand client. 363 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Indeed, yes. 364 00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:07,220 Logical, because it is hair father. 365 00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:11,420 Did Julie Bergman tell you that? 366 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Not literally. 367 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,860 But you were able to deduce it. 368 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,900 In my research I always look at: the complete picture. 369 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,920 To the way the different elements interact. And in this 370 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,260 case everything was very clear. 371 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:29,660 Both the place that Mr. Bergman took in his daughter's life as it 372 00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:31,880 conflict between Miss Bergman and Mrs Koens. 373 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,120 Yes. 374 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,380 And that father figure, that would be someone too otherwise they could be important 375 00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:40,420 role in Julie's life Bergman? 376 00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:42,290 I'm just saying something. 377 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:46,570 A teacher or an uncle or a trainer. 378 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:50,530 I couldn't deduce that from my research. But you spoke there yourself later 379 00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:54,090 about the importance you give to her sports attachment. Then a trainer will 380 00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:55,670 are important. 381 00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:57,310 I rake. 382 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,890 I couldn't deduce that from my research. You will have to tell her that 383 00:31:00,890 --> 00:31:01,890 questions. 384 00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:06,390 Miss Bergman, I stand up. 385 00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:07,810 And tell me. 386 00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:11,670 How was the relationship between you and Mr Peck? 387 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:13,630 Just. 388 00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:18,690 Just. But you were still whole close, if I understood correctly? 389 00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:23,010 I don't know. 390 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:26,990 No? How many times did you see each other? the week on average? 391 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:28,450 Twice, three times? 392 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:36,370 Four times a week for training and exercise then on weekends during competitions. 393 00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:38,860 That's almost more than your daddy saw. 394 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Actually, yes. 395 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:44,820 Actually, yes. 396 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,740 I heard through your dad that you are in the spring of 2019 together with Dennis 397 00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:54,060 been to Lazzarote. Is that correct? 398 00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:59,320 Yes. A qualifier for it European triathlon. 399 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,900 In the juniors. 400 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,760 Dennis said I was ready for that. 401 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:04,980 Yes. 402 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,480 And you've been there for almost two weeks stayed. 403 00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:10,920 Where did you sleep then? 404 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,300 In the hotel where everyone slept. 405 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Club La Santa it was. 406 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,600 Chic hotel? 407 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:20,540 I think so. Large rooms. 408 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:26,060 Reasonable. Great if you have the room for it yourself. A little smaller than you 409 00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:28,020 that you need to share with your trainer, says. 410 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,300 Did you sleep together in one room? 411 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:35,140 Yes. 412 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:42,830 An adult man living with a... 16 year old girl sleeps in one room. We 413 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:47,130 had no budget for that, for two rooms. I have been there for 14 days 414 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:48,130 slept. I did that. 415 00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:51,690 What are you insinuating there? Let's go keep calm, Mr. Pijken. 416 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:53,510 Thank you, Madam Chairman. 417 00:32:53,710 --> 00:33:00,210 Mrs. Bergman, according to your father you are in July 2019 together with Mr Pijken 418 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:02,410 went to the gynaecologist. 419 00:33:03,610 --> 00:33:04,610 Is that correct? 420 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,340 Dad couldn't make it, so Dennis came along. 421 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,020 First sleep together and then go to school together gynecologist. 422 00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:18,560 Is it true that you then had a prescription? went for the pill? 423 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,000 I didn't want to get my lines anymore during competitions, so the pill was possible 424 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I postpone it. 425 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480 By the way, Dad knew that was what I was going for. 426 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,140 Dennis didn't do anything. 427 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:34,880 And thus postpone your rules for one competition, is that done a lot? 428 00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:36,460 No idea. 429 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,820 That was Dennis's idea. 430 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:45,060 Excuse me? 431 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:46,900 That was Dennis's idea. 432 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,760 That was Mr. Pijken's idea. 433 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,200 And if he says it, you do it of course. 434 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,900 Yes, and of course it still has such a pill other benefits too. 435 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,160 I have an email here from a certain person Lotte Verhelst, addressed to the 436 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,450 triathlon association. That name, it says now something, Lotte Verhelst? 437 00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:11,290 Madam President, we are of this not informed. 438 00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:14,130 You know that's not possible, master Dark. 439 00:34:14,670 --> 00:34:18,290 Apologies, Madam Chairman. But me I only received this document this afternoon 440 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:22,590 acquired possession. And I didn't want it process would be unnecessarily delayed 441 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:25,710 today. That's very kind, but I can decide that myself. Thank you 442 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:28,889 yes. Master Dark, we are one here interrogating a witness. 443 00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:32,590 Unless you have something to add to the statement of the court psychiatrist, 444 00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:34,429 I would like to continue with the interrogation. Is that possible? 445 00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:36,510 Yes, thank you Madam Chairman. 446 00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:42,790 Lotte Verhelst spoke on June 16 triathlon association reported that they were Julie 447 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:48,550 Bergman naked at Mr. Pijken's showers of the sports hall 448 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:52,090 steps. That's not right, that was it's all one big misunderstanding. 449 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:55,210 Mr. Pijken, in your own importance was silenced. 450 00:34:55,690 --> 00:34:57,490 Sleep together in one room. 451 00:34:57,910 --> 00:35:01,070 To the gynecologist together. And together under the shower. 452 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,180 I would like to make a drawing of it, but it's not going to be that clean, I'm afraid 453 00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:08,180 i. 454 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,740 How did that beautiful poem go again? 455 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,080 That scribble scribble. I love you, but I hate Marianne. 456 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:18,280 I just want to be with you. 457 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:19,800 Marianne destroys everything. 458 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,100 Kill bitch, that one. 459 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:23,880 Exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. 460 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,320 Who says Julie Bergman is talking about this her father has? 461 00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:31,720 What if Marianne knew how stupid Julie was was with her entrainer? 462 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Harex man of all things. And that's why they're up boarding school was necessary. 463 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120 I think that's harsh entered. 464 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,320 Who says that Mr. Pijken doesn't have that one father figure is out of your electrical complex? 465 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,780 My research does not include Mr. Pijken was discussed in that way. 466 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,500 No? In my research, yes. 467 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,020 I'm going to ask you the question, miss Bergman. 468 00:35:58,700 --> 00:35:59,860 Dear, I love you. 469 00:36:00,870 --> 00:36:01,890 Is that about Dennis? 470 00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:09,010 Miss Bergman? 471 00:36:13,390 --> 00:36:14,810 Is that true about your shower? 472 00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:22,170 We have agreed here exactly that you weren't going to keep anything from me anymore 473 00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:23,170 and now this. 474 00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:26,230 That and her love you in that notebook. Who was that about? 475 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,280 Julie looks at me. 476 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,420 Did you have a thing with Dennis? 477 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,300 Do you know what the jury thinks now? 478 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,240 Silence is agreement, that's what they think. 479 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,960 Oh yes? 480 00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:49,720 That girl doesn't answer, she has something to hide. 481 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,380 Are they right to think that? 482 00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:57,900 Julie. 483 00:36:58,540 --> 00:36:59,540 Are they right? 484 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,020 We'll see each other tomorrow. 485 00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:24,560 Jelle doesn't believe all those figures, say. 486 00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:30,290 I'm not a pedophile. You have to fight it a French does not justify. It is 487 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:31,290 not so, I tell you. 488 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:34,490 I've never seen Julie in his life touched. But you're done with it 489 00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:35,490 one room located. 490 00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:36,650 Master Mules. 491 00:37:38,570 --> 00:37:39,630 Sorry, that was inappropriate. 492 00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:42,130 Yes, then we suddenly know that. 493 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:43,670 Thanks for the trust. 494 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:49,970 What's the point there? 495 00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:53,530 What is true about that relationship? 496 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,820 What our client does in his private life, that are the business. 497 00:37:57,620 --> 00:38:00,240 We may be in the wrong place here defending story. Master 498 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,340 Mules, keep it up and then go I'm still starting to have doubts about you 499 00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:05,640 capacity as a lawyer. 500 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,600 We are paid to do our job and not to find the culprit, okay? 501 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:13,780 Master Mules. 502 00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:16,300 Mr. Yildiz, what can I do for you? mean? 503 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,140 It was an eventful day today. 504 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:21,140 What is your position on the accusations? from master De Donker? 505 00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:25,790 I am confronted with it every day sadness of my clients and then to 506 00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:30,430 have to listen to how Master De Donker back to me every moment 507 00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:33,270 closes. I'm really into that affected, yes. 508 00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:37,350 So the relationship between Mr. Pijken and Julie Bergman... Wait, wait. 509 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,190 I can hand you my heart insurance. 510 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:17,790 I can't pee when someone is standing to listen. 511 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:19,470 That's okay. 512 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:21,070 Frank, what's it going to do? 513 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:23,390 I get it. 514 00:39:23,590 --> 00:39:26,890 That child is alone in the world. Mother dead, stepmother dead. 515 00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:28,890 Her father drops her. 516 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:30,710 And then suddenly, suddenly you are there. 517 00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:41,670 I'll go home. – But wait now just a moment. 518 00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:43,330 Claire. 519 00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:45,850 I don't recognize you anymore. 520 00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:49,630 Since when do you care? 521 00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:53,730 I just keep that in mind now that girl is lying. 522 00:40:20,430 --> 00:40:21,430 *** 523 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,800 Is that your sloop longer? 524 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:56,720 Yes, of course. 525 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560 Come in. 526 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:10,540 Yes. 527 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,260 It's still a lot messy because of this that fire. 528 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:15,540 Don't pay attention. 529 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,500 Look at. 530 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,620 Moerad, sir? 531 00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:27,060 Yes, your jacket was still in the hospital. 532 00:41:27,580 --> 00:41:28,580 Thank you. 533 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,860 And... Right. 534 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:37,360 Been clean for six months. 535 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,280 Congratulations. 536 00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:44,280 Technically 283 days, but there they don't have a coin for it yet. 537 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,140 Are we going to drink somewhere? 538 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:49,720 Is that necessary? 539 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,440 Then it's okay. 540 00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:07,760 I think I... Sorry, I don't 541 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,760 believed. 542 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:12,340 It'll go to Steve. 543 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:15,799 He's here. 544 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,800 One second. 545 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,320 Hey, what did we agree on? 546 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:26,560 One, you can see that in customer, right? One, one sip, one glass, one 547 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,040 bottle. What then? A line? 548 00:42:33,610 --> 00:42:34,690 Sorry, 549 00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:40,090 sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. 550 00:43:15,830 --> 00:43:19,350 It's not okay, Lubna. 551 00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:22,530 That guy is not okay. 552 00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:27,570 That guy is going to be my daddy child. 553 00:43:53,069 --> 00:43:55,130 Sister, can we just go through that process? let go? 554 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:05,230 You've been on my laptop. 555 00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:09,310 Why did someone say to your laptop sit? 556 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:13,350 This morning it was open, because I was downloading this. And now it is 557 00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:14,350 close. 558 00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:18,790 Maybe get yourself hurt, huh? 559 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:21,150 That's really not okay. 560 00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:22,740 That's my privacy. Sell ​​me. 561 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,720 Please, stop that tramping. 562 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,640 Is that your right? 563 00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:42,800 Good day, madam. I'm a detective Mousfi. This is Detective Schaalkes. 564 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,920 We come to sell. 565 00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:49,700 Sell ​​me. 566 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,520 Good day, sir. Sorry about it disturb. We have been given an assignment 567 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,280 of the public prosecutor for it confiscate the image carriers and 568 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,860 communication tools from Cope Adams. 569 00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:01,260 That's what you said? 570 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:02,720 Yes. 571 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:06,180 Could we ask the destination? for the household? 572 00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:09,940 Is that related to those photos of Angela? 573 00:45:10,420 --> 00:45:12,060 Her parents have filed complaints, yes. 574 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:44,900 It is possible that your mobile phone is still at school lies? 575 00:45:47,060 --> 00:45:48,060 Or somewhere else? 576 00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:52,760 I'm suspended. 577 00:45:53,980 --> 00:45:55,400 I've been at home all day. 578 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,780 But come on, buyer. Where is that cell phone? 579 00:45:58,580 --> 00:45:59,820 You've had him all day. 580 00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:02,480 I went to the store. 581 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,480 Maybe it's out of my pocket cases. 582 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,300 That's quite a coincidence, isn't it, boy. 583 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,180 I really don't know where that thing is. 584 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,400 I swear. 585 00:46:15,019 --> 00:46:17,740 Okay, we'll go with this for now have to do. We can already start with 586 00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:18,740 the laptop. 587 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,100 And then Koop can come along for a while the agency for a story. 588 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,700 And those new pills will make you so happy tired. 589 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,920 Yes. 590 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,620 I fall asleep everywhere. 591 00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:08,460 You are not supposed to do that every time day takes. The specialist said... 592 00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:10,220 I don't know if I want this anymore. 593 00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:18,820 What are you saying now? 594 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,600 I... 595 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:30,430 I don't think... I don't think I... 596 00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:36,170 ...I'm suicidal or something, but I know just... Me 597 00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:39,730 I just really don't know if I still do this can. 598 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:45,510 Living like that... That's not true... That isn't that abnormal is it? 599 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:47,670 Those thoughts. 600 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:50,070 There are still things we don't like have you tried? 601 00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:54,390 Yes, seek surgery and then you can we... 602 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,840 Another operation... In hours you can have one remove much of the pain. Dan 603 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,280 is that really worth a try? 604 00:48:00,580 --> 00:48:02,840 So, I can pay someone else's rent. 605 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,220 A citizen who wants to go four-fifths work, he can take over his shift. 606 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,740 That's really not the problem, is it? 607 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,780 I really don't understand what you still see with it. 608 00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:22,340 Everything? 609 00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:24,180 I see everything in you. 610 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,800 I think so too, I believe. 611 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,100 Real. 612 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Sorry. 613 00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:54,280 You're tired. 614 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,060 But we cannot give up now. 615 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,180 Simon, maybe that's not a bad thing you also agree individually with one 616 00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:14,260 therapist is going to speak. 617 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,920 It is now mainly about Esther and that is also the reason why we are here. 618 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,260 But the impact this whole situation has on has you is certainly not too 619 00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:26,260 underestimate. 620 00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,340 But there's nothing wrong with me. 621 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:31,680 I'm not saying that either. 622 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,840 Lina Schoenjans. 623 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,700 She has a lot of experience with informal caregivers. 624 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,800 Thank you. 625 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Anything else? 626 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,040 I knew about that room in Lanzarote. 627 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,320 But I knew about the gynecologist. 628 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,760 Yet I didn't do anything. 629 00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:19,660 Apparently I thought that was normal. 630 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,960 In any case, the jury is now on board the idea that Julie and Dennis committed that murder 631 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,000 may have committed together. 632 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,940 Is that really what you're thinking about right now? 633 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,860 I am confronted with it every day sadness of my client. 634 00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:09,010 It's stinky. 635 00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:14,170 The sun. 636 00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:21,710 Baby, it's time to go to sleep. 637 00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:23,630 Are you coming? 638 00:51:24,050 --> 00:51:26,890 No. Yes, come. We can do it tomorrow to make. 639 00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:30,310 Get some sleep, okay? 640 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,080 Are you ready? Yes. 641 00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:23,830 I forgot my shampoo, I'll be right there. Okay Lotte, thank you very much.